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Live from the echo chamber, Nick and Jon are back and woker than ever. This week we refine our sales pitch which can now be delivered by bike. We go deep on follow up, set some challenging goals, and go back to the drawing board on fitness watches. Nick has ordered new headphones, Jon just needs to try harder, and we wait for our advertising plans to go “woooosh” and _literally_ let all the air in. ## Show notes * Graeme Le Saux was often cast as an outsider within football for his _Guardian_[reading sensibilities and "sensitive" nature](https://www.theguardian.com/football/1999/may/15/newsstory.sport10). Here he is [discussing banter and changing room culture](https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/oct/12/footballer-banter-donald-trump-locker-room-insults). * We could be the [St Pauli](http://edition.cnn.com/2010/SPORT/football/08/18/football.st.pauli.punks/index.html) of village cricket * Nick [should have gone and got a Grey Nicholls bat](http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/cricket/8550680/A-boyhood-dream-my-own-bespoke-bat.html) * [The Tag smart watch can be traded for a proper one after 3 years](http://www.t3.com/reviews/tag-heuer-connected-watch-the-best-android-wear-watch-ever ) * [How to read and understand vo2 max](https://www.wareable.com/health-and-wellbeing/vo2-max-guide-understand-and-increase-789) * A quick tour of [Garmin's stats dashboard](http://runreporter.com/running-gear-reviews/garmin/garmin-connect-review/). And [another one for good measure](https://www.wareable.com/garmin/how-to-run-better-with-garmin-connect "Link: https://www.wareable.com/garmin/how-to-run-better-with-garmin-connect"). * [Marco Arment on non-Apple podcast apps on Apple Watch](https://marco.org/2017/09/24/what-watch-podcast-apps-need "Link: https://marco.org/2017/09/24/what-watch-podcast-apps-need") * [Some problematic advice on running—or stating the obvious, we don't know which](https://twitter.com/kyle_j_kranz/status/866070030676623360) [ **Please consider checking your balls should you have them, or donating to support cancer charities**](http://itsinthebag.org.uk) You can find us on [Apple Podcasts](https://itunes.apple.com/gb/podcast/you-dont-look-like-a-runner/id1259875775?mt=2), [Stitcher](http://www.stitcher.com/podcast/you-dont-look-like-a-runner?refid=stpr), on [Pocket Casts](http://pca.st/YXAA) and [Overcast](https://overcast.fm/itunes1259875775/you-dont-look-like-a-runner) or anywhere you like to get podcasts. Please do subscribe and leave us some reviews. It’s a huge help and it’s nice to know that you care. We are online at [runnerpod.com](http://www.runnerpod.com/ "Link: http://www.runnerpod.com/") where you can ...
The perfect watch may be here, but we don’t know as the PR guy is on holiday. This week Nick apparently has nothing to say and yet we seem to have gone long again. We talk Apple Watch and FitBit Ionic, plan Jon’s retirement, and get in the buff(s). Nick doesn’t watch TV, Jon doesn’t watch the Internet, and we ask “Can you buy a tattoo from a corner shop”? Whatever you want, we have it all this week. ## Show notes * [VM Footwear](http://vmfootwear.com/)—Nick’s guy who does portraits on trainers but not on trains * [Apple Air Pods](http://amzn.to/2ycYlg6) may be great for running after all. Denny from [Diz Runs Radio](http://www.dizruns.com/podcast/) gave us some notes, and we also [read this “by a runner” review](http://usabilityrocks.tumblr.com/post/159336005445/running-for-real-in-europe-and-asia-with-the-apple) * These are [Buffs](https://www.cotswoldoutdoor.com/brands/buff.html) * The other Nic in Jon’s life just ran the Thames Path Ultra—[learn more about the run, and throw his fundraiser a buck here](https://www.justgiving.com/fundraising/nicbitw) * [How Nick wears his Buff](http://www.teenagemutantninjaturtles.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/The-Foot-Clan-movie-TMNT-Teenage-Mutant-Ninja-Turtles-e13626836141331.jpg) * Find your [craft beer name](https://twitter.com/melindabuttle/status/906665673706762241) * [The Game](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Game_\(mind_game\)) * The Game the film with Michael Douglas has [turned 20](http://birthmoviesdeath.com/2017/09/12/fear-itself-david-finchers-the-game-at-20) * [Jon’s pal “invented” the game on the internet](http://aardvarkdj.blogspot.co.uk/2002/08/game-i-lost.html) according to the Wikipedia entry * [Did Rick Parfitt know he was playing the game](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krK7Q49o6uA)? * The [Apple event](https://www.apple.com/uk/apple-events/september-2017/) which announced the new watches and the iPhone X * Jon [doesn’t like the takes](http://thread.fm/e/357ab5b54ca174/) * [#holdconf](https://twitter.com/roundonefight/status/482551999150690305)—where the real work is the conversations in the bar afterwards * [Hello Internet](http://www.hellointernet.fm/podcast/87) * [The Gold Standard](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gold_standard) which is essential for understanding the plot of [Goldfinger](http://www.vulture.com/2012/11/which-james-bond-villain-plan-would-have-worked.html) * [LTE Apple Watch](https://www.theverge.com/2017/9/20/16334066/apple-watch-series-3-lte-new-features-review-2017) * [At the time of writing, it’s still ...
